Recurring Todoist



Back in July, I reported on a switch I was making in the tools I use to implement Getting Things Done. Briefly: My setup up to that point was to use ToDoist for all of my task lists, but I was beginning to be concerned about the control and flexibility that a proprietary system provided. So I switched to a purely text-based system using the todo.txt format that uses only plain text files.

Get a handle on your recurring tasks Recurring due dates allow you to create tasks that automatically repeat on a regular basis. In order to keep track of all of the tasks he set up to be repeating, Todoister Tony Robertson created a filter with the query recurring. Repeat Tasks filter query: recurring. The beauty of Todoist is its simplicity. Create your to-do list, add subtasks, create recurring tasks, and schedule things to do in the future. Todoist will automatically sync your list to all your devices, so you won’t have any excuse for not completing a task.

While it's not good to tinker with a GTD system that works --- because you end up spending time thinking about the sytem itself rather than using the system to Get Things Done --- I had a light summer, and so if I were going to experiment, this would be the time. So I used todo.txt all summer long and my initial impressions of it were very positive. But in the end, I had some issues with todo.txt that made me rethink my choice, and I have decided to go back to using ToDoist. I wanted to explain why, and discuss some things that I learned about GTD systems in the process.

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Reason 1: Syncing

The main reason I am migrating away from todo.txt is a serious issue with syncing the todo.txt file itself across different devices. This gets a little technical, so bear with me.

The way todo.txt works is that there is a todo.txt file that contains all my tasks, and this file lives on Dropbox. This file can be accessed in different ways and from different devices. But ultimately it's just a text file that you just edit (using an app, a command line tool, or just a text editor). Importantly: If you are using todo.txt across multiple devices, Dropbox takes care of syncing this file. And there's where the problem comes in.

Let's suppose you have a todo.txt file on Dropbox and are working with it on two devices, say a tablet and a phone. Suppose the tablet is offline but the phone is online. Before doing any editing, the most recently-synced version of todo.txt lives locally on both devices. Now suppose you use the tablet (offline) to make a change to the file, say marking a task as complete and adding one or two new tasks. Those changes are made but not synced, because the tablet is offline. Now suppose that, while the tablet is still offline, you use your phone to make even more changes. The changes are made and are synced, because the phone is online.

So far so good. But now, suppose you switch the tablet back online and it connects to Dropbox. What happens to todo.txt? What I want to happen is that the changes that I made on the tablet catch up with the changes made on the phone, and all these changes are pulled together, resolved, and merged into a new version of todo.txt that is synced to all my devices. Alas, this is not what happens. Instead, Dropbox will take the most recently-synced version of the file and simply push it to all my devices. In our scenario, the newest version of todo.txt is the one edited on the phone. That version is the new official version of the file, and when the tablet syncs, all of the changes made on the tablet while offline are simply, and irrevocably, wiped out.

How do I know this, you ask? Because while on the DC/NYC trip, I was on a plane to DC and did some reviewing, making a bunch of edits to todo.txt on my iPad, which was offline (in airplane mode). When I arrived in DC, my iPad was still in airplane mode but I did more work with todo.txt using my phone en route to my hotel. When I got to my hotel and got the tablet online, I looked at todo.txt and all of my tablet edits were gone. And there's no getting these back, because Dropbox never saw the tablet-version of the file.

Obviously this isn't acceptable for me. This all-or-nothing approach to syncing might work for some people, for example those who only manage tasks on a single device or who are always online. For me, this is a fatal flaw in the system, one that makes the system fundamentally untrustworthy.

With ToDoist, syncing is different. If you are offline on a device and add, change, or complete a task and then do the same on a second, online device, when the first device is reconnected to the internet, both sets of changes are faithfully represented in ToDoist once the the offline device is back on. This is the way it should work and must work for me to be able to trust the system. Powerteq driver download for windows 10.

Reason 2: Shallow App Ecosystem

A second, lesser reason for going back to ToDoist is that most of the apps for todo.txt are not very good, to put it mildly. There are apps for this system in a lot of different platforms, and that's a strength. However, most of the apps that are there are underdeveloped, or even outright abandoned, and they lack functionality and polish.

Gina Trapani created todo.txt at Lifehacker back in 2006. Initially there was a lot of excitement, and rightfully so, since there were basically no task management apps at all in those days besides maybe DevonThink. That excitement and the corresponding development of the ecosystem seems to have lasted about five years. After 2011, todo.txt dropped off the radar. Many of the apps listed at the todo.txt home page have not been updated since then. For example, the GitHub repo for the official Android todo.txt app has not had a commit since 2014. Many of the other GitHub repos for todo.txt projects are similarly ghost-town-like. Up until just last month, the official website by Gina Trapani had not been updated in a few years and several of the links to apps led to 404's. Of the apps that are still being maintained, some of them are just plain ugly and are relatively clunky to use, compared with ToDoist.

A great exception to this rule is TodoTxtMac which is maintained by Michael Descy. The app is updated in what seems like quarterly intervals and it's clear that Mike puts a lot of love into this project. If there were more app developers out there putting in the same elbow grease as Mike does, the todo.txt system would be a lot better off.

I'm encouraged by the recent news that Gina just last month transfered all development of todo.txt over to an open community. Maybe this means that some momentum can be generated to get todo.txt up to date. Until then, the app ecosystem is just too weak.

Reason 3: The 'It Just Works' factor

Finally, a reason that I switched back to ToDoist is that things in ToDoist simply work the way you want them to, without having to hack anything. Take recurring tasks for example. I found one todo.txt app supports recurring tasks, in the sense that when you mark the task done it automatically recurs in the list. Outside of that app, making truly recurring tasks is basically impossible; and in the todo.txt file itself, this is impossible. At one point I had an IFTTT recipe set up that did this but it inexplicably stopped working at one point, messed up my todo.sh file (that controls the command line tool) and I never got it to work again no matter how much hacking I did. I even looked into learning about cron jobs and maybe using this Unix functionality to schedule appendices to text files. But then I realized, this is crazy, and it's more trouble for me than it was worth.

On the other hand, if you want to add a task that recurs on the 25th of the month every month, in ToDoist you just type in 25th of each month when you enter the task, and ToDoist adds the recurrence. That's it. (You might argue that recurring tasks should go on the calendar, not in a next action list; but I want them to be in the next action list, dang it, and a good GTD system should obey my rules, not vice versa.)

Bottom line, the GTD system should not be something you spend a lot of time working with or thinking about. ToDoist is such a system for me; todo.txt ended up not being such a system for me when it comes to features that stray outside the core.

What I learned

Quanta computer apbu laptops & desktops driver download for windows. I learned a lot from using todo.txt, and I think it's still a system that fits a lot of people's needs, just not mine. Three lessons in particular stand out.

First, I learned the lesson that simplicity is essential. The main attraction of todo.txt is that it's just a simple text file --- nothing more, nothing less, and no fluff or needless bells or whistles. Coming back to ToDoist, I am choosing not to use any of the features that I consider inessential, for example Google Calendar integration (which is important for some people but not for me). I am trying to keep things as text-file-like as I can. If ToDoist ever bloats out to the point where I cannot ignore the inessentials, I'll reconsider my choices.

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Second, I learned that a completely frictionless GTD system is not always best. That is, some friction is good. Before when using ToDoist, it's so easy to get things into the system that I was putting everything into the system without thinking about whether the thing I was capturing was something that I should be thinking about. Todo.txt forced me to slow down a little when adding things in, because there's no email-to-inbox feature and no real 'quick entry' feature. That slight bit of friction in deciding whether certain 'stuff' is truly worth my time, which is a great feature of analog systems like bullet journaling, is something that I am disciplining myself to mimic now.

Third and finally, I learned and still believe that your data must remain under your control and must be reasonably portable, just in case you ever need to switch systems. Again, todo.txt is just a text file and therefore future-proof; you don't have to worry about whether the data in it can be ported to a new computer if needed, or even printed out and kept analog. I learned in this process that you can export your data from ToDoist, and it comes out as a CSV file --- not quite as simple as a plain .txt file but still something that can be stored and worked with in case I ever feel I need to bail on ToDoist. I have no such assurances from other systems that might lock my data into a format that I cannot port. Whatever system a person uses, portability has to be near the top of the priority list.

So it was a useful experiment, and in another work/life situation todo.txt would be a great fit for me, but for now it's back to the ranks of ToDoist users with me.

Recurring Todoist


Using recurring and repeating tasks in Todoist is a great way to save a lot of time and to stay on top of all of your tasks that occur regularly, or at least more than once.

When setting up a task in Todoist, to make it recurring you fill out the task information as you normally would, but when it comes to the time / date field you make some small changes.

For example, if you want a daily reminder you would type in “every day” in the date field and it would become recurring every day (remember – every day is ever day, including weekends!). If you only want weekdays you would type in “every weekday”.

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There’s lots of date formatting options that gives repeating tasks a lot of flexibility – you can find more of them here on the Todoist date formatting guide.

This is also important to know about if you are using IFTTT and Todoist – you’ll need to make sure you have your date formatting correct or you may run into some real issues.

(You can find out more about integrating IFTTT and Todoist to automate some really handy processes here: IFTTT & Todoist Gmail Automation Article)

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Another area where date formatting for recurring tasks can come in handy is setting start and end dates.

As an example, let’s say you had a project with a new task that came up, but you only need reminders through the end of the week. If today was March 23 and Friday was March 25, you would type in “every day ending March 25”. You can also do this for starting dates to set up a recurring task in the future!

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